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There are many reasons I ask this question, including translation is an important part of learning a non-mother tongue language, without a teacher, making this forum lose use to a lot of people. People would get turned away by it's exclusivity. Edit: "This is not the case."

Another reason is english and spanish.stackexchange exist, defeating another purpose of this forum. Edit: "This is also not the case."

I trust that everyone here has good intentions and are not always looking for this kind of feedback.

Still I wonder why, why did someone make this decision (persist), why isn't there a tag for this and why isn't it called "misc-languages" then? Edit: "This isn't relevant anymore."

I have to add that the motivation behind the question comes from a thread in the matter of interactive online translators.

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    I was going to answer this question, too, since many people misunderstand Language Learning and MiscLanguagesThatDidNotFindItsOwnSiteYet. But I saw the language you chose to talk in comments with those who are trying to help... and I changed my mind. Before attacking users here, please consider reviewing the rules of this site. If you find it matching your views — okay, welcome to this place. Otherwise please consider finding a forum or a chat board where such behavior is tolerated. Sep 9, 2022 at 23:03
  • Saying something is not the truth is not attacking, so I don't need to respond to this. I expect better from a big forum like stack exchange, a place to help people.
    – Ciel Ruby
    Sep 10, 2022 at 17:45
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    "Saying something is not the truth is not attacking". Accusing someone of lying is an attack.
    – Tsundoku Mod
    Sep 11, 2022 at 7:19
  • I didn't say you were lying, let stand intentional, I said the statement was a lie.
    – Ciel Ruby
    Sep 11, 2022 at 14:52
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    You literally said "That's a lie" in your comment to my answer. The word "lie" always implies intention.
    – Tsundoku Mod
    Sep 11, 2022 at 15:23
  • That link also shows examples of unintentionally lying, but if I (mis-)thought that saying it's a lie implied you were intentionally lying, I wouldn't have said it out of respect.
    – Ciel Ruby
    Sep 11, 2022 at 18:00
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    There is no such thing as unintentional lying. The word "lie" by definition implies intent.
    – Tsundoku Mod
    Sep 11, 2022 at 19:46
  • Not according to the link you sent and to me before u told me; I'm saying. Lie as a verb u are 100% true, but as this, a noun, maybe not.
    – Ciel Ruby
    Sep 12, 2022 at 12:51
  • I do want to apologize anyways for that in this world it's a standard that half of people on tv scream, about politics for example, while neutral people get pushed away, making emotionless text for many easily sound angry like an attack. I can't make it better, but I have to come clean my messages easily fall under this easily miss-interpreted emotionless text.
    – Ciel Ruby
    Sep 12, 2022 at 13:22
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    What are non-specific translation questions?? I am a translator and have no idea what that means.
    – Lambie
    Oct 15, 2022 at 16:39
  • Questions about translating itself and not about a translation of some word.
    – Ciel Ruby
    Oct 20, 2022 at 19:32

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Maybe not everyone is familiar with this, but language learning is an academic sub-discipline of applied linguistics (hence the name). There are some well-known researchers in these areas such as Paul Nation (noted for the "four strands" approach to studying languages) and Stephen Krashen (noted for the input hypothesis). These are the kinds of topics we're after here.

The reason translation questions (specific or not) are probably off-topic, is because the topic is generally not within the discipline of language learning. (Similarly, math questions are off-topic at Mathematics Educators.) However, translation-related questions which lean more towards language learning are probably okay, e.g., How can translation software be utilized to improve one's writing skills?

I haven't read your question, but judging from its title, it looks like you're after translation software recommendations. I think asking for recommendations for translation software might be on topic at Software Recommendations using the web-apps tag.

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  • Thank you, this is a way more descriptive response(in general) than I got there. When asking it, I coincidentally immediately asked in a comment if it was the right place instead of software recs, u confirmed not. Now I learned how to interpret resource, contributing to this forum.
    – Ciel Ruby
    Sep 12, 2022 at 13:04
  • People are always asking about translations from and into all kinds of languages. Including you with Chinese. I feel that most of the questions like these are off topic.
    – Lambie
    Oct 15, 2022 at 16:39
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The focus of this site is methods and hard-to-find resources for learning or teaching languages. The question What is a good online translator with a wide variety of languages? evidently does not fit that scope. Nothing in that (now deleted) question was about learning or teaching languages.

The claim that "translation is the core of learning a non-mother tongue language" is mistaken. Translation-based language teaching (see especially the grammar–translation method) was common a hundred years ago but is now considered completely outdated.

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    @KevinCrans "That's a lie". Please mind your language. You are not on a social network here.
    – Tsundoku Mod
    Sep 9, 2022 at 11:58
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    @KevinCrans I live in Europe and have attended language courses in three different European countries. I have never been in a language class that relied on translation as a teaching method, except where the goal was to teach translation in itself. Learning word lists does not rely on translation tools, so I don't see how that argument is even relevant.
    – Tsundoku Mod
    Sep 9, 2022 at 15:29
  • I had to provide my experience from (pre&) college to understand you.
    – Ciel Ruby
    Sep 9, 2022 at 16:39
  • I wouldn't dear to violate, not even on socials, I'm just making sure that if someone else would ask that question in their way, you'll treat them the same, else I feel violated.
    – Ciel Ruby
    Sep 9, 2022 at 16:53
  • My apologies, even though "resource" is still not clear to me, the other answer shows the right way to see the grey area. I delete the first comment and add it back on request.
    – Ciel Ruby
    Sep 12, 2022 at 13:00

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